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03/21/2005

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TTN

This is a great post. It is far past the point in time where politicians of any stripe should get courage credit for simply doing the right thing. Sure, my wife appreciates it when I take out the garbage, but she doesn't feel the need to bake me a cake every time I do it. Nor should she. It's great when a congressman is on the right side of an issue, but credit is only due when they manage to do that consistently. That's what differentiates the statesmen from the hacks.

Abby

Shouldn't it call into question the entire winners-win/losers-lose ideology of the current Republican Party? Shouldn't it also lead to an understanding that if we want to live in a society that provides a robust system of public support for those who need help -- whether for mental illness or any of the other misfortunes that life hands out at random -- we will need a government with adequate institutions and revenues to provide those things?

I mostly agree with you, and I don't want to give Gordon Smith credit for anything in particular.

In the case of mental illness, it is not at all clear to me that the misfortune is entirely random, but I'm still not comfortable with assigning moral blame. There seems to be a fair amount of assortative mating going on which tends to produce a genetic overload. So people with family histories of mental illness who marry others with a similar history are, in a sense, asking for a kid with mental illness. Does that mean that we should leave those people in the lurch? I guess what I'm saying is this: doesn't restricting help to "those who are in X situation through no fault of their own" create another kind of approved category?

Isn't this like trying to help only the deserving poor?

And a somewhat tangential point. Don't you think it would be possible to tie this into your "security is opportunity" theme. Mental illnesses, at least some of them are a really good example. There are a lot of highly creative people--scientists and others--who suffer from mood disorders, and when we don't treat them we are depriving society of their contributions. Now it may not be in the interest of an employer to do this. After all, an individual might decide that his job is crappy and he wants to quit, but that's why the employer shouldn't be the one in charge of providing the health insurance or deciding what needs to be covered. That's why we need to socialize some of the risk and the burdens, because only society as a whole is capable of promoting the general welfare.

The Navigator

Mark:
Outstanding post. Absolutely spot-on, as usual. You've nailed one of the things that's always driven me up a wall about conservatives: they all believe in the free market, except when it affects them personally. Each GOP senator seems to have his own set of market failures that he or she recognizes, but doesn't believe (or, really, admit) that any others exist.
Having said that, there does seem to be some sort of proto-responsibility at work here, in that Smith, Domenici, Greg Ganske, et al. appear to have picked their one progressive issue out of genuine conviction, and not, as with Specter, out of pure political calculation. If we're ranking them, surely that leaves Specter closer to the bottom.
(Note, though, that any ranking system which does not place Rick Santorum at the very bottom is presumptively malfunctioning.)

Rob W

Listen Mark, you just don't get it. If they don't do what their party says, there will be consequences. Like not being able to appear at the news conference announcing the party position on the bill. To forgo that opportunity takes real guts.

Nell Lancaster

Bravo, Mark. You write well when angry! And no doubt the background of many calm, ultra-fair posts gives your voice special impact when raised.

This point is dead on: :: Nor is a Senator likely to have a family experience with lack of health insurance, or personal bankruptcy, or Food Stamps. ::

...or with having a soldier son/daughter return from duty in Iraq missing limbs or suffering a brain injury.

phastphil

Amen, Brother!

RonK, Seattle

Aye! Conserviant campassionism: your family draws a bad card, and your solution is to keep dealing the same old cutthroat game - only with that card taken out of the deck.

Nutthuis

I remember a few years ago Dan Burton held hearings about autism. He spoke eloquently about his grandson and his struggle. I remember thinking at the time if only every congress person could only be personally affected by one of the problems facing average americans we could finally get things done.

Ellen1910

As a distant, uninvolved, impotent spectator of the Kabuki theater known as the United States Senate, my question is how can Mark's bit of political esoterica be transmitted beyond the liberal blogosphere?

Or do we all simply smile smugly to ourselves?

Larraine

Democrats have been infighting for years. Suddenly it takes courage for Republicans to do what they think is right? If they aren't allowed to appear at the photo op, they should call a press conference and/or write a blistering letter to the press telling the American people what happened. This is the kind of thing Democrats have done in the past. Republicans have been in lockstep unity for years with the right wing bullying the moderate members. Moderates have been too quiet. They should stand up and shout.

Larraine

Democrats have been infighting for years. Suddenly it takes courage for Republicans to do what they think is right? If they aren't allowed to appear at the photo op, they should call a press conference and/or write a blistering letter to the press telling the American people what happened. This is the kind of thing Democrats have done in the past. Republicans have been in lockstep unity for years with the right wing bullying the moderate members. Moderates have been too quiet. They should stand up and shout.

Patrick Nielsen Hayden

It does strike me that another way of looking at the phenomenon of "Miss American Conservatism" is that having a personal or family connection to some social problem usually considered to be "liberal" political territory (suicide, breast cancer, fallen arches) gives individual conservatives a bit of "cover" to pursue liberal policies without incurring quite as much blowback from the forces and institutions that pay to have conservatives put into office in the first place. Of course, this is a model that suggests that individual conservative politicians would actually prefer, given enough cover, to be liberal politicians. And I'm not sure I believe that any more.

benton

Bob Novak has a thing for a police training program that fits this bill nicely. It is right on.

EG

One of the reasons the First Lady was assigned teenage gang problems is the fact the MS-13 has been using machetes in Northen Virginia, the location where many Senators and their staff live. The MS-13 gang had been growing in CA and in 31 other states and was ignored until they started hanging out in the malls of Northen Virginia.

battlepanda

Add Nancy Reagan's support for stem cell research to the list.

Chuck Sheketoff

Mark,

You are absolutely correct. Mark Hatfield was a Republican who had courage - he voted against the constitutional balanced budget amendment. Voting for a program that blue state Oregonians support while voting against Feingold-Chaffee (paygo), Carper (no reconcilliation tax cuts) and for Bunning (more tax cuts for the wealthy) was fiscally irresponsible, not courageous.

pbresette

Thank you for exposing the falsehoods embedded in the "Miss America" syndrome you describe. It is essential that we challenge the prevailing notion that a collection of selected and "acceptable" individual interests is somehow the same as our collective interest. Recapturing a broader vision of the role of "our" government - and our supposed leaders - helps to paint in stark detail the deeply destructive attacks on our common interests being waged by those now at the helm.

Steve

You evoked, but did not mention, Dick Cheney's "courageous" stand on gay marriage.

dude

And the list of miss america cons go on: Duncan Hunter (d-san diego) had heart surgery, now wants govt money for prevention.

mattH

I think this is well represented by the (quite likely apochryphal) story of Ronald Reagan and a mother on welfare that he met. Moved by her conditions, he made out a check to her on the spot, and when he found out that she hand't cashed it and had instead framed it, turned around and wrote her another one.

When I first heard this, it was presented as evidence of his humanity and compassion, but it's obvious to me that it just shows his incapability of making connections between one tangible instance and hundreds of other less accessable ones.

One question that this pattern brings to mind, following what Patrick said, to what extent are all Republicans incapable of making intuitive leaps about things social? Or is this the only way they can sell such things to their constituents?

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