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10/11/2004

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theCoach

The question becomes, when this turns back around, how much should be done in the name of just deserts?
I think the answer is quite a lot. I can think of nothing that would be better for the country as a whole than the complete repudiation of the Bush administration and this Republican Congress. Those that are cashing in should be prosecuted if possible, but more likely a new Democratic coalition should put pressure on lobbying firms so that those jobs dry up. It should be made very clear that their behavior is unacceptable and will stain their legacy forever. Justice will be served if Tom DeLay's grandchildren need to change their last name so that they are not sullied with his reputation.

Roger Keeling

I enjoyed this posting quite a bit, and accept -- readily -- the fact that Democrats (both office-holders and staff) occasionally acted like jerks. But it seems to me that, as you suggest, the insults to the GOP members were at some level fundamentally trivial.

Perhaps there's a good history out there on this, but my general readings in history have inclined me to think that most of the institutional rules that Congress observed until just a few years ago evolved -- primarily -- following the Civil War. Some went back even further, but almost all of the formal civility and careful allocation of perks to majority and minority parties were reinforced following that national calamity.

In the period 1865 to about 1932 inclusive, the GOP controlled one or both houses of Congress far more often than the Democrats. I'd have to go get a good political almanac to find out exactly when and how often control shifted, but the GOP was certainly very powerful through most of those decades. Doubtless there were various "outrages" committed over time, yet in general the political compact held and from this the long traditions of the institution evolved.

In 1933, the New Deal Democrats took over with a real sense of it being time to shake things up. Nonetheless, while being the majority had its (substantial) perks, it is my understanding that the Democrats did not begin changing the rules wholesale in an effort to screw the Republicans. And, in fact, the Republicans didn't do it either (e.g., after the 1950 election, or when they retook the Senate in the 1980 election either).

No, only THIS generation of GOP leaders have been so cavalier about the political compact that has guided our government. I think the changes could be seen even earlier (e.g., in the GOP's abject failure to extend Jimmy Carter the traditional "honeymoon" in 1977, duplicated by their unremitting warfare against Bill Clinton starting even before he was sworn in in January, 1993), but the full extent of their repudiation of the basic rules of civility and fair play in both House and Senate only became obvious with their victory in the 1994 election.

In asking whether this is "just revenge," or something more, I would ask: if it was simply revenge, wouldn't a perfect reversal of the rules and behavior have been more than enough? Yet, as the Boston Globe's series shows, the GOP seems to have adopted a pre-Old Testament view on it: a thousand eyes for an eye, and a thousand teeth for a tooth. It has been far more than "just revenge," and for a long time!

-- Roger Keeling
Portand, OR.

Roger Keeling

Oops -- a minor mis-statement in my posting above. In the last paragraph, I meant to say, "Wouldn't a perfect adherence to the rules and behaviors (previously followed by the Democrats) have been enough?" rather than use the word "reversal."

If the rules and procedures were so unfair to the Republicans when they were the minority, wouldn't they have been equally unfair (and hence, a perfect payback) to the Democrats when THEY were the minority? The fact that the GOP's leadership has seen fit to keep piling on ever more onerous humiliations and limitations is evidence that this is not about simple payback.

-- Roger

perianwyr

Since when has an equal action ever been enough to erase an injury?

That's just wishful thinking. Revenge begets greater overreaction, not justice.

Good justice is dispassionate, and when the justicar has something to gain, it simply doesn't exist.

none

Mark, you raise this question here:

What makes the current majority members willing to be lapdogs remains one of the great questions in my mind.

And I think you, at least partially, answer it here:

... and then one by one cashing out themselves for the biggest lobbying jobs they can find...

They're not in it for service, or devotion to principle. Being a lapdog positions them to get those cashouts.

Nell Lancaster

I have the feeling that "Who's your Democrat?" is not the first question asked when a Republican wants to introduce a bill or amendment.

This post and several others lately have been deeply enjoyable -- the result of a person writing entertainingly about something he knows very, very well. Thanks!

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