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06/28/2004

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praktike

Mark, I'm sure there is a small urban issues community out there, but you won't find it among the bigs, so stop trying. Rest assured though, there's a group of commenters for every issue under the sun. I myself just took a blog tour of female muslims who wear hijabs and write in English. So there's hope for you yet.

Andrew Cholakian

Mark, that was probably one of the best blog posts I've read in a long while. You have my ear on this for sure.

Chris Marcil

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Or through a picket line.

JohnL

Your post was thought provoking, and I'm sure it was written with the most benign of intentions. But before we go getting wistful about urban riots, let's keep two facts in mind: 1. Outbreaks of violence may have temporarily put urban issues on the national agenda, but the attention thus attracted never led to any substantive progress; 2. the declining fear of violence in our major cities has been a major factor in the unprecedented renaissance of many downtowns, and there is nothing--NOTHING--that does more to improve living conditions in our cities than attracting the income-earning middle-classes (and the capital that inevitably follows them). I'm not saying I'm ready to claim victory. There's still a lot of ground to regain before the pernicious cycle of white flight is reversed. But given the terminal prognosis of most cities in the 1980s, this is progress.

Another point: the particular injury of urban unrest is not that it threatens middle class whites, but that it threatens the marginal immigrant populations who call the inner city home. If the threat of violence makes the inner cities inhospitable to recent immigrants, then all is well and truly lost.

Rich

There are blogs that touch on urban issues with some regularity. I work at a non-profit that does inner city economic development, and I have a blog where I occasionally write about what I see in the course of my job. City Comforts focuses on issues related to space, specifically in cities. David Sucher (the author of City Comforts) also keeps a very good blogroll of people writing about similar issues.

Peter Levine

Mark,

Thanks a lot for the plug. Your readers needn’t be concerned about whether my blog gets enough links of this kind. I can think of several reasons why it shouldn’t be widely cited. But I think you and I agree there’s a bigger issue here. The whole center-left is consumed with electoral strategy (how to beat Bush, and whether he’ll lose) and not concerned enough with developing solutions to poverty. This imbalance is obvious in the left side of the blogosphere as a whole, and also in casual offline conversations and the pages of print journals. I’m not talking about The Decembrist, which is one of the few blogs I’ve bookmarked (because it is substantive). There are a few other examples as well. But I’m talking about the conversations that draw a lot of attention across the most popular blogs. If we wanted to change the world for the better, we’d be consumed with documenting what’s going on and figuring out what works. Electoral strategy would be a secondary topic, except within campaigns. By the way, if we knew what really worked, we’d be able to develop more credible positive programs, and so it would be easier for left-of-center candidates to get elected.

Peter

Peter Levine

Mark,

Thanks a lot for the plug. Your readers needn’t be concerned about whether my blog gets enough links of this kind. I can think of several reasons why it shouldn’t be widely cited. But I think you and I agree there’s a bigger issue here. The whole center-left is consumed with electoral strategy (how to beat Bush, and whether he’ll lose) and not concerned enough with developing solutions to poverty. This imbalance is obvious in the left side of the blogosphere as a whole, and also in casual offline conversations and the pages of print journals. I’m not talking about The Decembrist, which is one of the few blogs I’ve bookmarked (because it is substantive). There are a few other examples as well. But I’m talking about the conversations that draw a lot of attention across the most popular blogs. If we wanted to change the world for the better, we’d be consumed with documenting what’s going on and figuring out what works. Electoral strategy would be a secondary topic, except within campaigns. By the way, if we knew what really worked, we’d be able to develop more credible positive programs, and so it would be easier for left-of-center candidates to get elected.

Peter

Dave

Thought provoking stuff...I was at a dinner party recently and suggested that the best way to put the plight of the working poor on the political agenda would be a rash of Colombia-style kidnappings of prominent businesspeople. Needless to say, this did not go over well.

lerxst

Mark and Peter,

I am of two minds on the issue of whether more thoughtful policy discussions on very specific subjects can take place through the blog world. One is that it can't...the nature of the medium is not well suited for it and there is not a critical mass of like-minded folks.

On the other hand, blogging is still in its infancy. Take the case of PhD microeconomists actively involved in high level research on social/education policy (say like David Card or Rebecca Blank or Steve Levitt). I am not aware of any top flight academic economists in this area who have blogs or who have time/interest to participate in them. Or in sociology, do people like Sandy Jencks or Susan Mayer have blogs? In economics Brad delong is really a rarety, but he is a macroeconomist/economic historian.

Perhaps longer term, there is hope but right now its tough to expect to have people with expertise get involved.

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