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Factcheck.org Strikes Out (Again!)

I"ve picked on factcheck.org before, because I find it very disturbing that they have assumed the role of ultimate arbiter of truth in political advertising and policy claims, despite being extremely amateurish and easily played by powerful interests. Another good example today:

An e-mail from factcheck.org challenges an ad related to the digital television transition. The underlying topic is is arcane, but stick with me. I happen to know a little about this, going back to the mid-1990s, when I followed it in the Telecom Act of 1996. In a nutshell, Congress long ago decided that we should shift television broadcasting to a new digital format, on a new section of the broadcast spectrum. Existing broadcasters will get new frequencies for free, which will allow them to develop many new ways to make money, but in return, they are expected to give up their old analog channels, which will eventually make that part of the spectrum available for other uses. Complicated as it is, the basic political dynamic here has long been that the broadcasters, by consensus one of if not the most powerful lobby groups in Washington, want the new digital frequencies, but also want to hold onto their old frequencies.

The ad in question focused on one of the new uses for the old analog TV spectrum: The newly available frequencies could be used by police and fire departments that currently don't have enough frequencies for their radios, or for new systems they want to develop. (There's something about the existing analog TV frequencies that makes them "good spectrum," and thus very useful for these purposes, but that's beyond my expertise.)  In the fight against the broadcasters, these "first responders" make an appealing, succinct case for a rapid transition. The ad in question was sponsored by the "High-Tech DTV Coalition" and urges viewers to contact a group called "Support America's First Responders," which apparently is supported by Motorola. Factcheck asserts that the ad might have been paid for by Motorola, which would potentially benefit from the rapid transition by selling new equipment to police and fire departments.

The "first responders" are not quite central to the decade-long fight over digital broadcasting, and so the ad's attempt to compress the issue into something understandable might be considered a little manipulative. And if Motorola paid for the ad, sure, that should be disclosed. But factcheck.org makes only one factual point about the ad: they complain that the ad says that the digital transition "is a 'win-win,' implying that there are no losers." Jeez, "win-win" is one of the half-dozen most overused expressions in business and politics in this country today, and I wish everyone took it so literally -- that would really be a "win-win"! But the ad didn't say there are no losers. It made the perfectly accurate point that consumers are winners if they get the benefits of digital TV, and police and fire departments, among others, would be winners if they got access to new broadcast frequencies.

Factcheck says this about the losers: Consumers "would be forced either to junk their [TV] set and buy a new digital set, or to obtain a new converter that manufacturers estimate will cost about $50...Also not mentioned is that taxpayers will be asked to contribute up to $3 billion to subsidize the conversion. That money would come from the proceeds expected from auctioning off some of the airwaves now used by TV broadcasters."

But the subsidies, if they really reach $3 billion, would be intended to cover the cost of converters. So both these things can't be true. To the extent there are subsidies, consumers aren't losers. And it is only accurate to say that "taxpayers will be asked to contribute" to the subsidies if it would be reasonable to think that you could take back the analog frequencies, auction them off, and give all the proceeds to the Treasury. But you can't. If government takes back the analog frequencies, it could only be as part of a deal whereby the public (which owns the airwaves, by the way) gives the new frequencies to the broadcasters, in exchange for their old frequencies, which are then auctioned to pay for the transition that makes it possible for everyone to get TV on the new frequencies, and thus makes the change worthwhile to broadcasters. That's the "win-win" bargain.  Without that deal, there's no auction, and thus no money for the "taxpayers." It's the rare case of government thinking ahead and trying to structure a good deal that works reasonably well for everyone. And the only obstacle to this sweet deal is that the broadcasters want it all. They want an even sweeter deal, where they get the new frequencies, but don't have to give up their old ones, which they also got for free, and which will have new money-making potential after the transition.

After that excursion, I have two simple questions for factcheck.org, which have to do with their methodology and not the arcana of spectrum policy:

1. This is the first e-mail I've received from factcheck.org in several weeks. Your web site shows that you haven't released any fact checks since October 28. In the two and a half weeks since then, there have been two state gubernatorial elections, a couple of dozen controversial state ballot initiatives, and lots of last minute ads on all of those. The president gave a speech in Pennsylvania making some very specific charges about Iraq war opponents "rewriting history." The congressional majority fell out over issues of tax cuts, oil drilling in ANWR, and spending cuts. The president withdrew a Supreme Court nominee and put forward a new one more amenable to the hard right. Print and broadcast ads were run on these issues and many others.  On what basis did you conclude that this mildly misleading ad that stretched the term "win-win" was the only ad in this entire eventful period that deserved a "fact check"??

2. Did contacts from any of the well-funded lobbyists on the broadcasters' side influence your choice of this topic over the many others available in this period or the substance of your critique? Did you contact advocates on the other side of the issue, or neutral experts, to obtain any perspective on the underlying issue??

And finally, a question for me: "Why do you get so worked up about this?" Answer: It's because I believe there is a real potential for a neutral arbiter of factual claims in ads and speeches. Factcheck.org has occupied that space. There's only room for one. And it is infuriating that they allow themselves to be spun, played and manipulated by some of the most powerful lobbyists in Washington. They must do better, or else their reports should be considered not credible by the national media, and some other organization should take over their role.

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Comments

While I encourage you to keep tilting at windmills, it is my prediction that factcheck.org will never change. My areas of expertise differ from yours, and whenever f.o has stumbled onto one of mine, they have been the same little whores to power that they are in yours. Further, Annenberg (who are f.o's parent) occasionally promulgate work in my wife's area of expertise. Guess what? Yep -- whores to power. While the group is intriguing for not predictably lapping at any particular teat, the behavior pattern would appear to be their corporate culture.

I've given up on them, but you have a voice. Keep up the good work and maybe someday we can embarrass them into selling the domain to a real fact-checker.

A fella can dream.

Posted by: wcw | Nov 15, 2005 2:09:10 AM

This is just a medicore fact-chuck. Not nearly anything approaching their best work.

Posted by: Kieran | Nov 15, 2005 8:35:02 AM

"They must do better, or else their reports should be considered not credible"

too late. their abysmal performance during the 2004 campaign destroyed any credibility they may have once had. just continue to use your platform to help remove them from their privileged position (I'm distressed to learn that they have one) rather than hoping for reform.

Posted by: | Nov 15, 2005 12:08:22 PM

It is absurd that factcheck.org exists without any sort of commenting system. Especially with the demonstrated success of technologies like wikis to collaboratively create and distribute information. An interprising person or organization could use wikinews or wikibooks right now and create a better factchecking repository.

Posted by: Andrew Grant | Nov 16, 2005 10:57:02 AM

Good, thoughtful, criticism of factcheck, which I fear goes way past their depth. There should, in fact, be another, and while it would take a while to gain mindshare, it wouldn't be hard to beat their performance.

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Mark: now THAT is a blog. Never mind the know- it-alls who think you are tilting at windmills. Some of us aren't that up to date on this and many other issues, and appreciate this very persuasive heads up.

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Motorola V70-- US$105
Motorola V80-- US$115
Motorola V290-- US$80
Motorola V750-- US$125
Motorola V3688+-- US$120
Motorola V8088-- US$30
Motorola V525-- US$139
Motorola V300-- US$130
Motorola V400-- US$125
Motorola V500-- US$130
Motorola V600-- US$140
Siemens A35-- US$15
Siemens A40-- US$19
Siemens A50-- US$25
Siemens A52-- US$29
Siemens A55-- US$30
Siemens C45-- US$30
Siemens C55-- US$35
Siemens CL50-- US$70
Siemens CL55-- US$65
Siemens CT56-- US$30
Siemens M50-- US$35
Siemens M55-- US$120
Siemens MC60-- US$79
Siemens ME45-- US$50
Siemens S45-- US$60
Siemens SL42-- US$65
Siemens SL45i-- US$69
Siemens S55-- US$85
Siemens SL55-- US$125
Siemens SX45-- US$155
Siemens SX1-- US$180
Siemens Xelibri 1-- US$60
Siemens Xelibri 2-- US$70
Siemens Xelibri 3-- US$110
Siemens Xelibri 4-- US$80
Siemens Xelibri 5-- US$65
Siemens Xelibri 6-- US$85
Siemens Xelibri 7-- US$85
Siemens Xelibri 8-- US$95

Nextel i55sr-- US$65
Nextel i2000plus-- US$35
Nextel i58sr-- US$30
Nextel i530-- US$35
Nextel i205-- US$20
Nextel i305-- US$25
Nextel i35s-- US$29
Nextel i88-- US$30
Nextel i90-- US$59
Nextel i95cl-- US$70
Nextel i60c-- US$40
Nextel 6510TM-- US$110
Nextel i730-- US$85
Nextel i733-- US$95
Nextel i736-- US$105
Nextel i830-- US$115
Nextel i860-- US$125
Nextel i930-- US$140

Qtek phones
Qtek s200 =$100
Qtek 9000 =$130
Qtek 8310 =$200
Qtek 8300 =$210
Qtek 9100 =$240
Qtek 8100 =$250
Qtek s110 =$210
Qtek s100 =$200
Qtek 9090 =$210
Qtek 8020 =$200
Qtek 8010 =$180
Qtek 2020i=$240
Qtek 2020 =$250
Qtek 8080 =$130
Qtek 8060 =$160
Qtek 1010 =$150
Qtek 7070 =$250

PDA's
HP IPaq Pocket PC H4150 ========= $190
Asus MyPal A716 ================= $175
HP IPaq Pocket PC H4350 ========= $185
Toshiba Pocket PC E405 ========== $120
Sony Clie PEG-TH55 ============== $155
Toshiba Pocket PC E800 ========== $220
PalmOne Zire 72================== $120
PalmOne Tungsten E ============== $90
PalmOne Tungsten C ============== $140
PalmOne Zire 31 ================= $65
MOTOROLA RAZR V3X AT JUST $130
MOTOROLA MPX 220 AT JUST $140
MOTOROLA MPX 300 AT JUST $120
TREO 650 AT JUST $140
TREO 700W AT JUST $200
SIDEKICK II AT JUST $120
MICROSOFT XBOX 360 AT JUST $152
SAMSUNG D600 AT JUST $220
SAMSUNG D500 AT JUST $172
SAMSUNG D415 AT JUST $130
XBOX
Microsoft Xbox with Controller S Console..$90
BRAND NEW REFORBLISHED Xbox 360 Console.. $180
Microsoft Xbox Console. $90
Xbox 360 Core System Console.$130
Xbox Console System Bundle 2 Controllers & 3 Games .$100
Microsoft Xbox Console.. $90
Xbox Console System Bundle 2 Games. $90
Xbox Media Center Bundle.. $100
and many others
IPODS
iPod nano 2GB Black MP3 Player.$100US
iPod Video 30GB Black MP3 Player.$100
iPod Video 60GB Black MP3 Player.$150
iPod Mini 4GB 18hour battery - Pink MP3 Player...$120
iPod nano 4GB Black MP3 Player....$150
DIGITAL CAMERAS
Canon PowerShot SD20 Digital Elph DigitalCamera..$101
Nikon Coolpix 5600 Digital Camera.$75
Pentax Optio 750Z Digital Camera. $130
Nikon Coolpix 4300 Digital Camera.$110
Nikon Coolpix S4 Digital Camera. $150
Casio Exilim Zoom EX-Z750 Digital Camera.$120
Sony Cyber-shot DSC-T7 Digital Camera. $120
Sony Cyber-shot DSC-N1 Digital Camera. $180
Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ5K Digital Camera. $100
Nikon D50 with 18-55mm and 55-200mm Lenses Digital..$150
PLAYSTATION 2 AND 3
Sony PlayStation 2 Console. $70
Playstation 2 Gran Turismo 3 A-spec Bundle Console..$90
Sony PlayStation 2 with Network Adapter and ATV 2...$150
Sony PlayStation 2 Slim SCPH-70012 Black Game Console...$75
PlayStation 2 Greatest Hits Bundle . $75
......PS3......
Sony Playstation PS3 Game Console - System Available. $100
PlayStation3.. $110
PS3 Speculation Aplenty. $150
Autodesk Announces 3ds Max Software Support for Sony PS3..$100
and many others
LAPTOP
Dell Latitude C640 1.8GHz P4 Laptop w/CD-RW......$250
Dell Inspiron XPS M140 Notebook Computer for Home.....$350
Sony VAIO FS540P - Pentium M 730 1.6 GHz - 15.4'' TFT...$400
Sony Intel Pentium M 100GB Notebook Computer with
DVD+/-R/RWDrive...$400
ThinkPad G40 2389 - C 2.5 GHz - 14.1'' TFT IBM.....$500
Panasonic Toughbook 18 Touchscre......$450
HP Compaq Business Notebook nc8230 - Pentium M 760 2 GHz -
15.4''TFT...$800
HP Compaq Mobile Workstation nw8240 - Pentium M 760 2 GHz -
15.4''TFT...$650
BRAND NEW TV SETS
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FORJUST$350
Sharp Aquos 26'' IDTV LCD TV with Freeview FOR JUST $350
Sharp LC-20B5E 20 in. LCD Television FOR JUST $350
Sharp LCM-3700 37'' LCD Television FOR JUST $350
Sharp 50cmV LCD - 4:3 Format - NICAM Stereo FOR JUST $250
Sharp XVZ200FOR JUST $350
Sharp LCD TV FOR JUST $400
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Sharp Aquos LC32GA5E 32 in. Plasma Television FOR JUST $320
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Sharp LC26GA4E $300
Panasonic TH-32LHD7BK 32'' LCD Black FOR JUST $400

SONY VAIO DESKTOP-- RS504-------------------------------------$350
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZX5030------------------------------------$350
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP-- M30-106----------------------------$350
HP MEDIA CENTER DESKTOP COMPUTER-- M1080 PHOTOSMART---$350
APPLE IBOOK 1.2GHZ COMBO WITH 14.1 INCH DISPLAY---------$400
APPLE GHZ SUPERDRIVE DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 17 INCH MONITOR$250
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZV5230EA---------------------------------$150
SAMSUNG LAPTOP-- P28 LTC 330---------------------------------$300
SONY VAIO DESKTOP-- V1------------------------------------------$230
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP-- A40-231----------------------------$250
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZV5169EA---------------------------------$200
APPLE GHZ COMBO DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 17 INCH MONITOR-$190
APPLE IBOOK 1GHZ COMBO WITH 14 INCH DISPLAY---------------$250
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP-- A40-892----------------------------$300
APPLE IBOOK 1GHZ COMBO WITH 12 INCH DISPLAY--------------$250
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZV5213EA---------------------------------$250
SONY VAIO A217S-- 100GB-- 512MB RAM-- XP HOME-------------$450
SONY VAIO B1VP-- 40GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP PRO--------------$200
SONY VAIO T370P/L-- 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP----------------$200
SONY VAIO A215Z 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP------------------$5450
SONY VAIO A397XP-- 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP----------------$650
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$350
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$490
SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$420
SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$450
SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP-----------------$500
SONY VAIO B1VP-- 40GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP PRO-------------$200
SONY VAIO T370P/L-- 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP PRO----------$500
SONY VAIO LAPTOP-- VGN-A117S----------------------------------$450
SONY VAIO LAPTOP-- VGN-S1XP------------------------------------300usd
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Posted by: Phone Telcom Ltd. | May 16, 2006 5:46:02 AM

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Motorola a760 .250usd
Motorola a768 170usd
Motorola a768i 200usd
Motorola a780 300usd
Motorola c550 90usd
Motorola c650 100usd
Motorola e365 100usd
Motorola e398 120usd
Motorola i860 $135usd
Motorola Mpx 300 $150usd
Motorola Mpx 220 $140usd
Motorola V6 $180usd
Motorola e680 340usd
Motorola Razor v3 150usd
Motorola v220 170usd
Motorola v303 100usd
Motorola v400 150usd
Motorola v500 150usd
Motorola v501 200usd
Motorola v525 150usd
Motorola v600 (oem) w/ Bluetooth headset 260usd
Motorola v600 oem 200usd
Motorola v690 170usd
Motorola v750 180usd
Motorola v80 200usd
Motorola v80 with Bluetooth 260usd
Motorola v872 200usd
Motorola v878 180usd
Motorola v300 150usd
NOKIA MOBILE PHONE
NOKIA 8850 ….. $150USD
NOKIA N90 …….$150USD
NOKIA N91 ……$180USD
Nokia N92……..$270
Nokia 6060…….. 175$
Nokia 6111…….. 175$
Nokia 6280 ……..175$
Nokia N70 ………155$
Nokia Vertu …….255$
Nokia 5140i …….145$
Nokia 6230i …….145$
Nokia 5100 $140usd
Nokia 5140 $142usd
Nokia 6100 $150usd
Nokia 6108 $150usd
Nokia 6220 $155usd
Nokia 6230 $160usd
Nokia 6230i $165usd
Nokia 6260 $170usd
Nokia 6270 $180usd
Nokia 6600 $185usd
Nokia 6630 $185usd
Nokia 6610 $175usd
Nokia 6610i $175sd
Nokia 6650 $180usd
Nokia 6670 smart phone $200usd
Nokia 6820 $190
Nokia 7200 $195usd
Nokia 7210 198usd
Nokia 3230 130usd
Nokia 7610 220usd
Nokia 9300 220usd
Nokia 7250 70usd
Nokia 7250i 175usd
Nokia 7260 160usd
Nokia 7200 110usd
Nokia 7600i 150usd
Nokia 7610 150usd
Nokia 8910i 140usd
Nokia 8910ic..140usd
Nokia 9210i communicator 160usd
Nokia 9500 communicator260usd
Nokia 9300 communicator..200usd
Nokia n-gage180usd
Nokia n-gage qd.200usd
SONY ERICSSON MOBILE PHONE
SONY ERICSSON P910…….$160USD
SONY ERICSSON P900…….$150USD
SONY-ERICSSON S600 ……185$
Sony Ericsson w800i …..175$
SONY-ERICSSON K600 ……175$
SONY-ERICSSON K700i …..145$
SONY-ERICSSON K500i …..120$
SONY-ERICSSON D750 ……175$
SONY-ERICSSON K750i …..175$
SONY-ERICSSON W800 ……175$
SONY-ERICSSON S710 ……175$
SONY-ERICSSON P910i …..175$
SAMSUNG MOBILE PHONE
SAMSUNG D600 ……175$
SAMSUNG P860 ……175$
SAMSUNG P850 ……175$
SAMSUNG E730 ……175$
SAMSUNG D510 ……175$
SAMSUNG Z700 ……145$
SAMSUNG D720 ……175$
SAMSUNG Z130 ……110$
SAMSUNG Z500 ……120$
SAMSUNG Z300 ……110$
SAMSUNG D500 ……175$
SAMSUNG C100 ……15$
SAMSUNG D700 ……175$
SAMSUNG P500 ……175$
TREO MOBILE PHONES
Treo 600 PDA Phone (Verizon Wireless)…$120usd
Treo 650 PDA Unlocked GSM Cell Phone without…$200usd
Treo 650 Palm OS Phone for Sprint……$220usd
TREO 600 UNLOCKED GSM PDA CELL…$120usd
TREO 270 PDA/PHONE WIRELESS…..$500usd
TREO 650 PDA/ PHONE 32MB PALM OS 5.4 WRLS CDMA…$200usd
Treo 650 GSM Smartphone……$250usd
TREO 650 PDA/PHONE 32MB PALM OS…..$270usd
Treo 650 GSM Quad Band World Phone/PDA….$300usd
Treo 270 Color PDA/GSM/GPRS Cell…$210usd
NEXTEL MOBILE PHONES
Nextel i930 cell phone …..$140usd
NEXTEL I860 cell phones……$150usd
SIDE-KICK 2
T-Mobile Sidekick II Cell Phone……..$100
T-Mobile Sidekick II………………..$80
Sidekick II T-Mobile with Color Screen…$150
T-Mobile Sidekick II TMO to Go Prepaid Phone…$110
T-Mobile Sidekick II Phone (T-Mobile)……$100
T-Mobile Sidekick II T-Mobile Replacement Phone…$170
T-Mobile Sidekick - Data Only Product Features..$90
T-Mobile SideKick II………….$100
Mobile Sidekick II…………….$100


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Apple 40 GB iPod photo………………..40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ….40 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……….60 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………….55 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……….50 USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………….50 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….60 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe…………….110 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe……………….150 USD
X box premium console ……………… 190usd

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